This comment will get this thread moved to the Back Porch, but it boils down to politics. Democrats want this to linger as long as possible and for Americans to be miserable and frustrated as a result so they vote for change when they head to the polls later this year. As the saying goes, "never let a good crisis go to waste", and they are seizing the opportunity to push their agenda and won't stop until the public pushes back and demands that things begin to normalize (knowing that it would be less damaging to the country as a whole for the small % of Americans that are at a higher risk to the virus go into isolation instead of the whole country doing so on their behalf). Staying at home was the right thing to do until we learned more about the virus, how it is spread, who is at risk and the curves began to come down, but once it is reasonably safe for most Americans to begin a rolling restart of the economy and return to some version of the "new normal", we should do so IMHO.JudgeLarryDawg said:
Why does it seem that some elected officials almost seem to want this pandemic to last and last?
hmwood said:
You are not shutting sports, schools, and the economy down until a safe vaccine is available next July or August that's not sustainable, it just isn't.
Because it is lasting......JudgeLarryDawg said:
Why does it seem that some elected officials almost seem to want this pandemic to last and last?
The Democrats? LOL.HunkerDownDawgs said:This comment will get this thread moved to the Back Porch, but it boils down to politics. Democrats want this to linger as long as possible and for Americans to be miserable and frustrated as a result so they vote for change when they head to the polls later this year. As the saying goes, "never let a good crisis go to waste", and they are seizing the opportunity to push their agenda and won't stop until the public pushes back and demands that things begin to normalize (knowing that it would be less damaging to the country as a whole for the small % of Americans that are at a higher risk to the virus go into isolation instead of the whole country doing so on their behalf). Staying at home was the right thing to do until we learned more about the virus, how it is spread, who is at risk and the curves began to come down, but once it is reasonably safe for most Americans to begin a rolling restart of the economy and return to some version of the "new normal", we should do so IMHO.JudgeLarryDawg said:
Why does it seem that some elected officials almost seem to want this pandemic to last and last?
I live here in LA and have the "pleasure" of listening to people like Governor Newsome and Mayor Garcetti do their daily press conferences and they, along with the media and other Democratic leaders, seem to keep moving the goalposts on what must be required in order to lift their stay at home and social distancing orders, and each time they talk the requirement seems to become harder to meet. What was once described as a need to stay at home in order to "flatten the curve" has now grown into a much more difficult requirement that includes everyone being tested for Cornavirus (or antibodies to it), a fool proof method for contact tracing being in place and all hospitals being ready for any future version of a similar world wide pandemic. Next up will be a requirement that a cure for Coronavirus be in hand, followed by all social and economic inequalities having been addressed so the less fortunate are not at a higher risk for things like this going forward.
Having said all of that, it will be interesting to see if they stick to their guns once all of the other states begin to return to work and sports begin to resume elsewhere and places like CA, NY, MI, IL and others are missing out on tax revenue and voter satisfaction begins to turn against them.
Explain this for me.ssidedawg said:
Getting the economy back and having sporting events are separate items.
We can get back to some sort of economic normalcy without football. Yeah....its true. Now those specific athletic economies may suffer, but plumbers, bankers, lawyers, carpenters, etc can work while sports wait.
As its been said here, putting 100,000 people in close proximity for pleasure is absurd right now. Also, sports is a bloated business. Do we really care some guy cant get $25M a year for throwing a baseball every 5 days? The endorsements will shrivel and maybe they should? Thats another discussion.
And this pandemic isn't "political". Good grief.
Agree.gemdog said:
..I don't know, we are all sports fans, and are all UGA football fans.
But I can see a big difference. 90,000 people spending a saturday partially drunk singing the national anthem in unison, screaming and cheering next to one another for two hours - breathing all over each other, seems a little different than quietly riding a subway for 20m while probably wearing a mask to get to your job.....
Social distancing rules will be in full effect moving forward. Public transportation and workplaces can far more easily accomplish a safer environment than a stadium where you cant get a business card between folks because they are packed in tight.CummingDawg22 said:Explain this for me.ssidedawg said:
Getting the economy back and having sporting events are separate items.
We can get back to some sort of economic normalcy without football. Yeah....its true. Now those specific athletic economies may suffer, but plumbers, bankers, lawyers, carpenters, etc can work while sports wait.
As its been said here, putting 100,000 people in close proximity for pleasure is absurd right now. Also, sports is a bloated business. Do we really care some guy cant get $25M a year for throwing a baseball every 5 days? The endorsements will shrivel and maybe they should? Thats another discussion.
And this pandemic isn't "political". Good grief.
We can't have people going to football games because of the number of people around each other, right?
Can we use the NYC subway? DC Metro? Chciago L?
How can you have a "some sort" of normal economy when the means of transportation that the majority of workers use is FAR more dangerous than a football stadium.
Further, how can a person go to work in a high rise? You are around thousands of people and surfaces those people have touched just by being at work. That doesn't even include if you go out to lunch, etc.
Also, if you don't think there is a political aspect in this... I don't know man. Just watch any news channel. It is highly politicized by both sides.
Serious question, have you ever lived in a major city in which public transit is the primary source of transportation? It sounds like you have not. There is no possible way to have "social distancing" during rush hour on any of those.ssidedawg said:Social distancing rules will be in full effect moving forward. Public transportation and workplaces can far more easily accomplish a safer environment than a stadium where you cant get a business card between folks because they are packed in tight.CummingDawg22 said:Explain this for me.ssidedawg said:
Getting the economy back and having sporting events are separate items.
We can get back to some sort of economic normalcy without football. Yeah....its true. Now those specific athletic economies may suffer, but plumbers, bankers, lawyers, carpenters, etc can work while sports wait.
As its been said here, putting 100,000 people in close proximity for pleasure is absurd right now. Also, sports is a bloated business. Do we really care some guy cant get $25M a year for throwing a baseball every 5 days? The endorsements will shrivel and maybe they should? Thats another discussion.
And this pandemic isn't "political". Good grief.
We can't have people going to football games because of the number of people around each other, right?
Can we use the NYC subway? DC Metro? Chciago L?
How can you have a "some sort" of normal economy when the means of transportation that the majority of workers use is FAR more dangerous than a football stadium.
Further, how can a person go to work in a high rise? You are around thousands of people and surfaces those people have touched just by being at work. That doesn't even include if you go out to lunch, etc.
Also, if you don't think there is a political aspect in this... I don't know man. Just watch any news channel. It is highly politicized by both sides.
Also, its about risk reduction. Surely you dont equate working a job to watching s football game as equal needs. Do you? I know you love to troll rabbit holes but thats absurd to compare.
Everything is politicized for sure, but to think the disease is controllable by a political party is weird.
It is different.gemdog said:
..I don't know, we are all sports fans, and are all UGA football fans.
But I can see a big difference. 90,000 people spending a saturday partially drunk singing the national anthem in unison, screaming and cheering next to one another for two hours - breathing all over each other, seems a little different than quietly riding a subway for 20m while probably wearing a mask to get to your job.....
CummingDawg22 said:Serious question, have you ever lived in a major city in which public transit is the primary source of transportation? It sounds like you have not. There is no possible way to have "social distancing" during rush hour on any of those.ssidedawg said:Social distancing rules will be in full effect moving forward. Public transportation and workplaces can far more easily accomplish a safer environment than a stadium where you cant get a business card between folks because they are packed in tight.CummingDawg22 said:Explain this for me.ssidedawg said:
Getting the economy back and having sporting events are separate items.
We can get back to some sort of economic normalcy without football. Yeah....its true. Now those specific athletic economies may suffer, but plumbers, bankers, lawyers, carpenters, etc can work while sports wait.
As its been said here, putting 100,000 people in close proximity for pleasure is absurd right now. Also, sports is a bloated business. Do we really care some guy cant get $25M a year for throwing a baseball every 5 days? The endorsements will shrivel and maybe they should? Thats another discussion.
And this pandemic isn't "political". Good grief.
We can't have people going to football games because of the number of people around each other, right?
Can we use the NYC subway? DC Metro? Chciago L?
How can you have a "some sort" of normal economy when the means of transportation that the majority of workers use is FAR more dangerous than a football stadium.
Further, how can a person go to work in a high rise? You are around thousands of people and surfaces those people have touched just by being at work. That doesn't even include if you go out to lunch, etc.
Also, if you don't think there is a political aspect in this... I don't know man. Just watch any news channel. It is highly politicized by both sides.
Also, its about risk reduction. Surely you dont equate working a job to watching s football game as equal needs. Do you? I know you love to troll rabbit holes but thats absurd to compare.
Everything is politicized for sure, but to think the disease is controllable by a political party is weird.
As for the troll stuff, dude its getting tiring. You constantly post absolute bull**** that is factually wrong. That doesn't even account for the stuff like the first part of your post which is just idiotic.
You and your odd superiority complex that you are right about everything (you know marketing, healthcare, etc, etc) are really played out. You never add anything to a conversation or even try to add. I never "equated" working to football. I asked about the safety of both... the virus doesn't care about where you are. It makes no sense that mass public transit, used by millions more Americans, is safe, but attending football games is not. I asked to explain that... you did it with "social distancing" which is just ridiculous.
Super old news dude. You should also read the article.. it is also about football recruiting...ssidedawg said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1909332-inside-the-mind-of-a-college-football-message-board-troll
How is that end of discussion?ssidedawg said:CummingDawg22 said:Serious question, have you ever lived in a major city in which public transit is the primary source of transportation? It sounds like you have not. There is no possible way to have "social distancing" during rush hour on any of those.ssidedawg said:Social distancing rules will be in full effect moving forward. Public transportation and workplaces can far more easily accomplish a safer environment than a stadium where you cant get a business card between folks because they are packed in tight.CummingDawg22 said:Explain this for me.ssidedawg said:
Getting the economy back and having sporting events are separate items.
We can get back to some sort of economic normalcy without football. Yeah....its true. Now those specific athletic economies may suffer, but plumbers, bankers, lawyers, carpenters, etc can work while sports wait.
As its been said here, putting 100,000 people in close proximity for pleasure is absurd right now. Also, sports is a bloated business. Do we really care some guy cant get $25M a year for throwing a baseball every 5 days? The endorsements will shrivel and maybe they should? Thats another discussion.
And this pandemic isn't "political". Good grief.
We can't have people going to football games because of the number of people around each other, right?
Can we use the NYC subway? DC Metro? Chciago L?
How can you have a "some sort" of normal economy when the means of transportation that the majority of workers use is FAR more dangerous than a football stadium.
Further, how can a person go to work in a high rise? You are around thousands of people and surfaces those people have touched just by being at work. That doesn't even include if you go out to lunch, etc.
Also, if you don't think there is a political aspect in this... I don't know man. Just watch any news channel. It is highly politicized by both sides.
Also, its about risk reduction. Surely you dont equate working a job to watching s football game as equal needs. Do you? I know you love to troll rabbit holes but thats absurd to compare.
Everything is politicized for sure, but to think the disease is controllable by a political party is weird.
As for the troll stuff, dude its getting tiring. You constantly post absolute bull**** that is factually wrong. That doesn't even account for the stuff like the first part of your post which is just idiotic.
You and your odd superiority complex that you are right about everything (you know marketing, healthcare, etc, etc) are really played out. You never add anything to a conversation or even try to add. I never "equated" working to football. I asked about the safety of both... the virus doesn't care about where you are. It makes no sense that mass public transit, used by millions more Americans, is safe, but attending football games is not. I asked to explain that... you did it with "social distancing" which is just ridiculous.
Can you watch your job on TV from the couch?
Can you watch football from your couch?
End of discussion. Its about risk REDUCTION not elimination. We need to work, eat and pay bills. We dont need to go to a stadium. Riding a subway to go to work isn't in the same solar system as sitting through UGA v Auburn.
I have added a LOT of real stuff to this convo. You are purposefully contrary. Thats trolling. I post opinions and some facts. You tell all of us your opinions are facts. If you are wrong you wear people down with this type argument. Still doesnt make it fact.....
You telling me I have a superiority complex is rich! I mean, irony much?
