NCAA to allow patches on uniforms + other changes

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RyanJordan
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Dirteater Dawg
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Just what i wanted, more politics in sports...
BrewDawg
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I want to see who'll be the first to wear "COVID HATE ME" on their name plate.
ssidedawg
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Dirteater Dawg said:

Just what i wanted, more politics in sports...
How is a memorial or commemorative patch "political"?
RyanJordan
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ssidedawg said:

Dirteater Dawg said:

Just what i wanted, more politics in sports...
How is a memorial or commemorative patch "political"?


"Social justice issues" patches are also allowed.
jt10mc
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ssidedawg said:

Dirteater Dawg said:

Just what i wanted, more politics in sports...
How is a memorial or commemorative patch "political"?


Do you really think these turds who run these organizations are not going to bow to the current social "what i think is reality" state we are in,? F blm and thier communists handlers.
Dean Legge
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Staff
Politics goes to the back porch.
BirdDawg
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Anyone else think it is kind of dumb to have the limited interaction at the coin toss when in a few minutes later they are going to have sweaty guys piled on each other and they be breathing hard and yelling in each other's face?
apmdawg
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First the NBA, which I choose to no longer watch. Then MLB with the kneeling. Then the NFL with 2 national anthems, which if they do and players stand for one and kneel for the other I will no longer watch. All I have left to watch is golf and college sports and now they're trying to ruin college sports for me. So before long I'll have golf and nothing else.
Bulldawg1
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Patches - NOW people will really watch and support college football (smh). Well, Nascar does patches....maybe patches will be for sale, and get more sponsors since fans may not get to fill stands.

What a weirdness we live in right now.
ColonialDawg
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I don't like it. I don't think the NCAA really thought this through which, come to think of it, isn't all that surprising.
Lamar
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One of the great things about horse racing is they never protest or express their opinions on matters I could care less to hear or now I guess see.

A little more hay or oats and an occasional hard candy (peppermint or lemon drop) and they're good to go.

When one comes out with a blanket that says "Save a horse ride a cowboy" I'll probably throw in the towel.
Bulldawg1
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The NCAA thinks? I thought they just impetuously responded to things.
Bulldawg1
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Or ANYTHING! Why can't we just have sports without rhetoric? You want to raise money for a kid with cancer - I'm great with that. Just not the other stuff.
Bulldawg1971
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If you don't think "social justice issues" are political, I don't know what to tell you. Did you just move here from Mars?
ssidedawg
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Some of you are some miserable SOB's.

They will probably wear a Dooley patch but you guys think its will the be University of Antifa now. Good grief this site has become sad.
ColonialDawg
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ssidedawg said:

Some of you are some miserable SOB's.

They will probably wear a Dooley patch but you guys think its will the be University of Antifa now. Good grief this site has become sad.
I'd be OK with "Chico's Bail Bonds" replacing the name strips. Bad news Dawgs.
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If the University of Antifa was playing Florida in the national title game, I'm pulling for Antifa...
Lamar
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gemdog said:

If the University of Antifa was playing Florida in the national title game, I'm pulling for Antifa...
I think I'd hope for the proverbial meteor strike in that scenario.
Firebrand
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ssidedawg said:

Some of you are some miserable SOB's.

They will probably wear a Dooley patch but you guys think its will the be University of Antifa now. Good grief this site has become sad.


I'm shocked. And its hard for me to understand the vitriol.

I'm a capitalist, humanist, centrist, fiscal conservative pan-african. Ardent supporter of the 1st, 2nd and 14th amendment. Revere the constitution and I love this country, blemishes and all-- and like anything or anyone else I love will call out and attempt or offer to help solve her faults.

Real love, unconditional and unwavering. And these days more than any other I feel like Tom Hanks in castaway.

No country for bold men.

Everyone's having a conversation about each other where half of their premise is fiction. And they call it fact.

No way to come to an understanding in that environment. I really worry about the state of things
ssidedawg
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gemdog said:

If the University of Antifa was playing Florida in the national title game, I'm pulling for Antifa...


Well played.....
ssidedawg
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My point is they announce this patch idea and folks sprint to some social statement garbage. Why can't it be something cool or nostalgic....nah. BLM patches for all! Lol.
Dirteater Dawg
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ssidedawg said:

My point is they announce this patch idea and folks sprint to some social statement garbage. Why can't it be something cool or nostalgic....nah. BLM patches for all! Lol.


Do you really think that is not what it is going to be? The NBA has already begun.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/amp/Spurs-make-major-change-to-Orlando-uniforms-in-15446739.php
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Dirteater Dawg said:

ssidedawg said:

My point is they announce this patch idea and folks sprint to some social statement garbage. Why can't it be something cool or nostalgic....nah. BLM patches for all! Lol.


Do you really think that is not what it is going to be? The NBA has already begun.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/amp/Spurs-make-major-change-to-Orlando-uniforms-in-15446739.php


Yes, because the fans of the NBA are very different compared to the mass majority of college football fans.
Firebrand
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Dirteater Dawg said:

ssidedawg said:

My point is they announce this patch idea and folks sprint to some social statement garbage. Why can't it be something cool or nostalgic....nah. BLM patches for all! Lol.


Do you really think that is not what it is going to be? The NBA has already begun.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/amp/Spurs-make-major-change-to-Orlando-uniforms-in-15446739.php


The point is who cares? This nonsense that BLM is an "armed" whatever (it isn't). Or a Marxist or Communist organization (it isn't). Or that it's mission is to destroy America is patently ridiculous. I listened to a podcast state that BLM says on their website that they are these things (Matt Shea's Patriot radio episode 221) and simultaneously read the About Us section of their website where none of that rhetoric existed.

These "agitators" in large part aren't seeking to destroy the nuclear family. All but one of the folks I've met or known HAVE nuclear families of their own, are married with regular jobs and organize on the side. I can't speak to the younger folks

Are there MARXIST among the Black rank and file of BLM? No. Are there SOCIALISTS among them? Absolutely. The two are not the same.

Are the BLM founders Socialists and anti capitalism? Probably. I'd bet money on it. But they aren't the rank and file.

I know people who organize for that group. They are regular boring, typical Americans you'd see at the church potluck. We argue about everything except our intended goals- which is a happy family with an equal chance for continued pursuit of happiness.

None of those people own guns. They give me grief for my gun collection. None of those people are ANTIFA. They openly opine about having to control radical violent leftist and right wing groups looking to join ranks of protests.


And still...who cares? All lives matter, sure. That is a given, even from members of BLM. But we are talking about Black lives at the moment. I don't go to a Breast Cancer walk and scream "All Cancer matters!" Wear your pink ribbon. I am not offended just because my father had prostate cancer.


I'm more concerned about the Boogaloo boys and the Aryan nation folks that are embedded in protests, and contributing to seeding violence.

These folks are not just RUMORED to sew violence but are ACTUALLY shooting cops during this unrest. They're recruiting directly from the military.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/06/23/far-right-groups-like-the-boogaloo-and-o9a-continue-to-attract-troops-and-veterans/


I'm worried about all the people caught on camera destroying things and then sprsying BLM graiffi while actual protestors BEG them not to destroy things.

Like the woman who burnt the Atlanta Wendy's down and the man they just caught who broke the windows of the AutoZone in Minneapolis. https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-umbrella-man-autozone-fire-hells-angels-police

We need to get a hold of all of this weird rhetoric that is factually untrue, misleading and very dangerous. If you polled UGA football players I'm willing to bet that 70% or more of the black players either support BLM or have protested in some way in alliance with them.

You want them off the team? Fine. Then find and recruit a black person that doesn't support the idea that government employees who's salary citizens pay for, should not harass or engage in police brutality with impunity.

It's wrong for ANYbody to be brutalized in that manner. But black folks, no matter their legal standing or personal choices, fair far worse. That's worth a friggin patch.
ssidedawg
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Firebrand said:

Dirteater Dawg said:

ssidedawg said:

My point is they announce this patch idea and folks sprint to some social statement garbage. Why can't it be something cool or nostalgic....nah. BLM patches for all! Lol.


Do you really think that is not what it is going to be? The NBA has already begun.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/amp/Spurs-make-major-change-to-Orlando-uniforms-in-15446739.php


The point is who cares? This nonsense that BLM is an "armed" whatever (it isn't). Or a Marxist or Communist organization (it isn't). Or that it's mission is to destroy America is patently ridiculous. I listened to a podcast state that BLM says on their website that they are these things (Matt Shea's Patriot radio episode 221) and simultaneously read the About Us section of their website where none of that rhetoric existed.

These "agitators" in large part aren't seeking to destroy the nuclear family. All but one of the folks I've met or known HAVE nuclear families of their own, are married with regular jobs and organize on the side. I can't speak to the younger folks

Are there MARXIST among the Black rank and file of BLM? No. Are there SOCIALISTS among them? Absolutely. The two are not the same.

Are the BLM founders Socialists and anti capitalism? Probably.

I know people who organize for that group. We argue about everything except our intended goals- which is a happy family with an equal chance for continued pursuit of happiness.

None of those people own guns. They give me grief for my gun collection. None of those people are ANTIFA. They openly opine about having to control radical violent leftist and right wing groups looking to join ranks of protests.


And still...who cares? All lives matter, sure. That is a given, even from members of BLM. But we are talking about Black lives at the moment. I don't go to a Breast Cancer walk and scream "All Cancer matters!" Wear your pink ribbon. I am not offended just because my father had prostate cancer.


I'm more concerned about the Boogaloo boys and the Aryan nation folks that are embedded in protests, and contributing to seeding violence.

These folks are not just RUMORED to sew violence but are ACTUALLY shooting cops during this unrest. They're recruiting directly from the military.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/06/23/far-right-groups-like-the-boogaloo-and-o9a-continue-to-attract-troops-and-veterans/


I'm worried about all the people caught on camera destroying things and then sprsying BLM graiffi while actual protestors BEG them not to destroy things.

Like the woman who burnt the Atlanta Wendy's down and the man they just caught who broke the windows of the AutoZone in Minneapolis. https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-umbrella-man-autozone-fire-hells-angels-police

We need to get a hold of all of this weird rhetoric that is factually untrue, misleading and very dangerous. If you polled UGA football players I'm willing to bet that 70% or more of the black players either support BLM or have protested in some way in alliance with them.

You want them off the team? Fine. Then find and recruit a black person that doesn't support the idea that government employees who's salary citizens pay for, should not harass or engage in police brutality with impunity.

It's wrong for ANYbody to be brutalized in that manner. But black folks, no matter their legal standing or personal choices, fair far worse. That's worth a friggin patch.
Agree!
Dirteater Dawg
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Firebrand said:

Dirteater Dawg said:

ssidedawg said:

My point is they announce this patch idea and folks sprint to some social statement garbage. Why can't it be something cool or nostalgic....nah. BLM patches for all! Lol.


Do you really think that is not what it is going to be? The NBA has already begun.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/amp/Spurs-make-major-change-to-Orlando-uniforms-in-15446739.php


The point is who cares? This nonsense that BLM is an "armed" whatever (it isn't). Or a Marxist or Communist organization (it isn't). Or that it's mission is to destroy America is patently ridiculous. I listened to a podcast state that BLM says on their website that they are these things (Matt Shea's Patriot radio episode 221) and simultaneously read the About Us section of their website where none of that rhetoric existed.

These "agitators" in large part aren't seeking to destroy the nuclear family. All but one of the folks I've met or known HAVE nuclear families of their own, are married with regular jobs and organize on the side. I can't speak to the younger folks

Are there MARXIST among the Black rank and file of BLM? No. Are there SOCIALISTS among them? Absolutely. The two are not the same.

Are the BLM founders Socialists and anti capitalism? Probably. I'd bet money on it. But they aren't the rank and file.

I know people who organize for that group. They are regular boring, typical Americans you'd see at the church potluck. We argue about everything except our intended goals- which is a happy family with an equal chance for continued pursuit of happiness.

None of those people own guns. They give me grief for my gun collection. None of those people are ANTIFA. They openly opine about having to control radical violent leftist and right wing groups looking to join ranks of protests.


And still...who cares? All lives matter, sure. That is a given, even from members of BLM. But we are talking about Black lives at the moment. I don't go to a Breast Cancer walk and scream "All Cancer matters!" Wear your pink ribbon. I am not offended just because my father had prostate cancer.


I'm more concerned about the Boogaloo boys and the Aryan nation folks that are embedded in protests, and contributing to seeding violence.

These folks are not just RUMORED to sew violence but are ACTUALLY shooting cops during this unrest. They're recruiting directly from the military.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/06/23/far-right-groups-like-the-boogaloo-and-o9a-continue-to-attract-troops-and-veterans/


I'm worried about all the people caught on camera destroying things and then sprsying BLM graiffi while actual protestors BEG them not to destroy things.

Like the woman who burnt the Atlanta Wendy's down and the man they just caught who broke the windows of the AutoZone in Minneapolis. https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-umbrella-man-autozone-fire-hells-angels-police

We need to get a hold of all of this weird rhetoric that is factually untrue, misleading and very dangerous. If you polled UGA football players I'm willing to bet that 70% or more of the black players either support BLM or have protested in some way in alliance with them.

You want them off the team? Fine. Then find and recruit a black person that doesn't support the idea that government employees who's salary citizens pay for, should not harass or engage in police brutality with impunity.

It's wrong for ANYbody to be brutalized in that manner. But black folks, no matter their legal standing or personal choices, fair far worse. That's worth a friggin patch.
I appreciate your perspective Firebrand.

As with all groups, of course there are some great common folk and then there are the extremists. They have black supremacists like the BLM co founder who claims that 'whiteness is not humanness' or 'white people are genetic defects'. She prayed to Allah on Twitter "Plz Allah give me strength to not cuss/kill these men and white folks out here today." https://torontosun.com/2017/02/11/black-lives-matter-co-founder-appears-to-label-white-people-defects/wcm/2748a714-f567-4344-8c08-decfe73d1e52
Then you have the awesome people like you are friends with who most likely feel nothing like that.

Unfortunately, it is unclear during all of these riots who is doing the property damage, hurting others, etc. Is it Antifa? Is it socialists or marxists? Is it BLM? Is it white supremacists aiming to taint the movement?
The black leaders in the 60's did a superior job in fighting injustice during a much more racist era.

There are people out there who are white supremacists as you pointed out that are against the BLM movement and then you have people who do not believe in the other things the organization supports, but still believe that black lives do matter.

I am certain many of the players have protested in some way. Perfectly fine, within their right, and I, personally, don't care if they did or not. I am not sure why you suggest people would want them off them team. As a free country if you allow one group to have a patch, then are you going to allow a player to wear an Aryan nation patch if he wants? Obviously, I wouldn't agree with that either but he would have that right. This is opening up a can of worms.

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It's definitely a mixed bag and that's why it's dangerous. That said, folks forget that it was in the 60s as well. And MlK was the most hated man in America at that time.

John Lewis led SNCC but most forget why he was ousted from that group. They were very militant. Stokely Carmichael and HRap Brown were that groups leaders after Bond and Lewis. Their militancy is infamous.

So you had militants, NAACP, Catholic and Jewish orgs, other independent folks who teamed with the freedom riders, sclc, sncc and unaffiliated people involved in the marches of that era

We remember the sit-ins but not the Orangeburg massacre, or Jackson state. We forget the killings of freedom riders that also sparked retribution. All apart of or adjacent to the work MLK and the non violent part of the civil rights movement worked on.

They trained, they preached and worked on non violent protest but that only scales within your given organization. It doesn't account for splinter group unsanctioned activity which happened both then and now.

That's why I don't like us cherry picking or rose colored memories of past or recent present because they cloud our judgement.

I don't agree with some of the rhetoric I hear from frustrated/angry/tired black folks. Stuff like saying any group of humans are evil is disgusting to me. I can't abide it

That said, the overwhelming majority of people associated with the protests aren't racists. Problem is the company they keep.

I dunno where all of this lands. But we've got to get a grasp of this thing

I hate to see this happen here. This isn't supposed to be happening here. Breaks my heart.

ssidedawg
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Firebrand said:

It's definitely a mixed bag and that's why it's dangerous. That said, folks forget that it was in the 60s as well. And MlK was the most hated man in America at that time.

John Lewis led SNCC but most forget why he was ousted from that group. They were very militant. Stokely Carmichael and HRap Brown were that groups leaders after Bond and Lewis. Their militancy is infamous.

So you had militants, NAACP, Catholic and Jewish orgs, other independent folks who teamed with the freedom riders, sclc, sncc and unaffiliated people involved in the marches of that era

We remember the sit-ins but not the Orangeburg massacre, or Jackson state. We forget the killings of freedom riders that also sparked retribution. All apart of or adjacent to the work MLK and the non violent part of the civil rights movement worked on.

They trained, they preached and worked on non violent protest but that only scales within your given organization. It doesn't account for splinter group unsanctioned activity which happened both then and now.

That's why I don't like us cherry picking or rose colored memories of past or recent present because they cloud our judgement.

I don't agree with some of the rhetoric I hear from frustrated/angry/tired black folks. Stuff like saying any group of humans are evil is disgusting to me. I can't abide it

That said, the overwhelming majority of people associated with the protests aren't racists. Problem is the company they keep.

I dunno where all of this lands. But we've got to get a grasp of this thing

I hate to see this happen here. This isn't supposed to be happening here. Breaks my heart.


Well said and the context is appreciated.

Any group, no matter its virtue, attracts bad people. Some of the most heinous crimes in history were in the "name of God" so to speak.

People love to gravitate to the 1-2% of the bad people in the BLM movement while they so quickly ignore the evil in their own kind. Show me a quote from an extremist BLM activist and I got a David Duke quote for you.
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