"Changing this name is overdue as it represents a connection to a war fought to perpetuate slavery," Oregon State president Ed Ray said in a statement. "While not intended as reference to the actual Civil War, OSU sports competition should not provide any misconstrued reference to this divisive episode in American history. That we did not act before to change the name was a mistake. We do so now, along with other important actions to advance equal opportunity and justice for all and in recognition that Black Lives Matter."

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No as in negative like I said

Jerrodjones said:

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First off could people stop saying and spelling Cumming, Cummings.

I figured you of all people would know the city's name and who it was named after. American historic figure William Cumming. You seem to be up on American military history.

Secondly, "civil war" doesn't apply only to the United States. We don't have a monopoly on terms. Lots of countries have had and are having civil wars. Here is the Webster - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civil%20war

You may be distraught to hear about (i) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemeni_Civil_War_(2015%E2%80%93present), and (ii) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war

Really glad they changed the name.

Is "Clean, Old Fashioned Hate" next on the chopping block?

If they take that away, I wanted the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party back.

I have to belief "Deep South's Oldest Rivalry" would be gone before the others

CummingDawg22 said:

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Jerrodjones said:

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First off could people stop saying and spelling Cumming, Cummings.

I figured you of all people would know the city's name and who it was named after. American historic figure William Cumming. You seem to be up on American military history.

Secondly, "civil war" doesn't apply only to the United States. We don't have a monopoly on terms. Lots of countries have had and are having civil wars. Here is the Webster - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civil%20war

You may be distraught to hear about (i) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemeni_Civil_War_(2015%E2%80%93present), and (ii) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war

Really glad they changed the name.

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Technically, wouldn't the Korean War be a civil war (North against the South)? They are technically still at war (I guess civil war).

sicemdawgs77 said:

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CummingDawg22 said:

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Jerrodjones said:

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Waiting on cummmings22 and bulldawg1 negative comments in 3 2 1

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First off could people stop saying and spelling Cumming, Cummings.

I figured you of all people would know the city's name and who it was named after. American historic figure William Cumming. You seem to be up on American military history.

Secondly, "civil war" doesn't apply only to the United States. We don't have a monopoly on terms. Lots of countries have had and are having civil wars. Here is the Webster - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civil%20war

You may be distraught to hear about (i) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemeni_Civil_War_(2015%E2%80%93present), and (ii) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war

Really glad they changed the name.

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Technically, wouldn't the Korean War be a civil war (North against the South)? They are technically still at war (I guess civil war).

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No because they are sovereign states.

It was Leno

We can do without alot of things too many people are complaining about positive change.

What should we call what we are in now? Certainly not "civil!"

I am so offended. You hurt my feelings.
I don't care what they call their rivalry. It could be battle of the pond or battle of the small area of water....or the non-civil war, or the civil, but passive agressive disagreement, or the everybody wins bc Oregon wins game, or the coming together celebration of Oregon....or Ducks vs Beavers game/match....but if you are offended by their name for their rivalry - even if it has no bearing on your life and you don't have an attachment to it - then they definitely must change it. One person's opinion/feelings who is unrelated to the rivalry is certainly more important than everyone else's combined if there is the threat of social shaming....and we all know social shaming is "positive", and whatever the person doing the shaming thinks or believes is always the correct point of view, and the other person's point of view being shamed is certainly negative. This is how we create "positive" change. Society bullies the "positive" into them - but society also says, do not bully, bc people don't bully people. "Isn't it ironic?"

On a funny note, as much as Cumming and I have disagreed in the past, It think it's funny that you singled us out in same post.

Yall disagree on sports but stick together on changes thats going on now.

You mean I have no problem with them?

The fact that I think they are the definition of virtue signaling doesn't change that I'm okay with the change..

It's lunacy to pretend that anyone at Oregon or Oregon State ever lost sleep over this rivalry name. if they did, its weird because civil war isn't an "American" thing.

Far less than 1% of America even knew this was the name of that football. I mean what % of America has ever even watched it?

But if it makes you feel good, that's great. It will change no one, not one, person's life. So lets ignore real problems in communities this is "serving."

I'm not going to keep going back and forth with you about this

Jerrodjones said:

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I'm not going to keep going back and forth with you about this

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There is nothing to go back and forth about.

I'm fine with the change.

It's also a fact that it doesn't actually help or move forward any of the real problems.

I agree

We have agreed on the overall result in every topic...

That's the weird part about the comment from you above. But I feel like we are making progress.