SN absurd preseason QB Rankings and Bama love

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So just looking over the QB rankings by the Sporting News. They're...uh, strange, bordering on ridiculous.

First of all, they rank Trevor Lawrence as the #25 QB in the nation going into the season. Huh? I mean, one could probably argue and say that if you would have ranked Fromm in the top 25 last season you would have got laughed at and look where he ended up, but gees, let's face it, it took an injury to Eason to really get Fromm where he was. Not that he's not talented and all...and I've personally met Lawrence and he's a great kid and a great player, but this is a bit of stretch considering they have Bryant ranked #11. So they must be assuming Bryant is going to get hurt, or something?

Fromm comes in at #3...I guess I'll be a homer and say ok, but then....

Tua Taoravioli or whatever the heck his name is comes in at #2. That's right, #2 and they even said they considered putting him at #1. double huh?? He never started a game last season and he's better than...
Bryant @ Clemson?
Browning @ Washington?
Tate @ Arizona?
Grier @ West Va?
Milton @ UCF?...don't laugh, he finished 7th in the Heisman voting.

So, is this just a Bama-get's-the-love-whether-it's-warranted-or-not pick, or...what? Anybody else think Hurts is getting shafted just because he struggled against us? Is Tua REALLY that good?

Bama visitors, feel free to chime in....and let the stoning begin....lol
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Alabama QB Jalen Hurts [2016 4* prospect]: in 29 games he's completed 394 of 637 passes (61.9%) for 4,861 yds w/ 40 TDs & 10 INTs, and rushed 345x for 1,809 yds (5.2 ypc) & 21 TDs

Alabama QB Tua Tagovailoa [2017 5* prospect]: in 8 games he's completed 49 of 77 passes (63.6%) for 636 yds w/ 11 TDs & 2 INTs, and rushed 8x for 27 yds (4.9 ypc) & 2 TDs

Arizona QB Khalil Tate [2016 4* prospect]: in 18 games he's completed 129 of 224 passes (57.6%) for 1,834 yds w/ 17 TDs & 12 INTs, and rushed 202x for 1,648 yds (8.2 ypc) & 13 TDs

Central Florida QB McKenzie Milton [2016 3* prospect]: in 23 games he's completed 459 of 731 passes (62.8%) for 6,020 yds w/ 47 TDs & 16 INTs, and rushed 206x for 771 yds (3.7 ypc) & 11 TDs

Clemson QB Kelly Bryant [2015 3* prospect]: in 25 games he's completed 275 of 416 passes (66.1%) for 2,877 yds w/ 14 TDs & 9 INTs, rushed 227x for 843 yds (3.7 ypc) & 14 TDs, and punted 1x for 45 yds

Georgia QB Jake Fromm [2017 4* prospect]: in 15 games he's completed 181 of 291 passes (62.2%) for 2,615 yds w/ 24 TDs & 7 INTs, and rushed 55x for 79 yds (1.4 ypc) & 3 TDs

Washington QB Jake Browning [2015 4* prospect]: in 39 games he's completed 706 of 1,096 passes (64.4%) for 9,104 yds w/ 78 TDs & 24 INTs, rushed 186x for 105 yds (0.6 ypc) w/ 12 TDs, caught 1 pass for 4 yds, and punted 12x for 425 yds (avg. 35.4 yds/punt)

West Virginia QB Will Grier [2016 4* prospect]: in 17 games he's completed 355 of 548 passes (64.8%) for 4,692 yds w/ 44 TDs & 15 INTs, and rushed 99x for 238 yds (2.4 ypc) & 4 TDs
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Airforce....you're a stat machine! lol

So what's your opinion...give me your top 5 ranking going into the season..??
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Darindawg said:

Airforce....you're a stat machine! lol

So what's your opinion...give me your top 5 ranking going into the season..??
As the saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

1. Alabama QB Tua Tagovailoa, 6'1", 219 lbs, 4.58 40 [2017 5* prospect]: in 8 games he's completed 49 of 77 passes (63.6%) for 636 yds w/ 11 TDs & 2 INTs, and rushed 8x for 27 yds (4.9 ypc) & 2 TDs; note - completed 14 of 24 passes for 166 yds, 3 TDs, & 1 INT and rushed 12x for 27 yds vs UGA in the CFP National Championship Game on 8 January 2018; although he hasn't played much, he was a highly touted prospect that delivered when it counted most [i.e., coming in the second half of the national championship game w/ his team down 13-0 and rallying them to an overtime win by throwing a 41-yd TD pass on 2nd down and 16 when the Crimson Tide was down by 3]

2. Oregon QB Justin Herbert, 6'6", 225 lbs, 4.81 40 [2016 3* prospect]: in 16 games he's completed 301 of 461 passes (65.3%) for 3,919 yds w/ 34 TDs & 9 INTs; rushed 102x for 344 yds (avg. 3.4 ypc) & 7 TDs - note: has the size, TD-to-INT ratio, and completion % that NFL scouts love; not quick, but can pick up a few yds on his own

3. West Virginia QB Will Grier, 6'2", 204 lbs, 4.62 40 [2016 4* prospect]: in 17 games he's completed 355 of 548 passes (64.8%) for 4,692 yds w/ 44 TDs & 15 INTs, and rushed 99x for 238 yds (2.4 ypc) & 4 TDs - note: negative marks for getting busted for PEDs at Florida and getting booted from the program, but he can play (fwiw, I think Jim McElwain is still the head coach of the Gators if Grier stayed); bonus points for being the son of a high school head football coach (I think that helps his football IQ)

4. Alabama QB Jalen Hurts, 6'2", 218 lbs, 4.62 40 [2016 4* prospect]: in 29 games he's completed 394 of 637 passes (61.9%) for 4,861 yds w/ 40 TDs & 10 INTs, and rushed 345x for 1,809 yds (5.2 ypc) & 21 TDs - note: completed 3 of 8 passes for 21 yds and rushed 6x for 47 yds vs. UGA in the CFP National Championship Game on 8 January 2018 - note: talented QB but didn't perform well in the national championship game; if he would have remained in the game, then I think the Dawgs would have won it in regulation

5. Penn State QB Trace McSorley, 6', 202 lbs, 4.64 40 [2014 3* prospect]: in 33 games he's completed 528 of 854 passes (61.8%) for 7,369 yds w/ 59 TDs & 18 INTs, and rushed 303x for 899 yds (avg. 3 ypc) & 18 TDs - good QB, but a bit undersized

6. Washington QB Jake Browning, 6'2", 210 lbs, 4.78 40 [2015 4* prospect]: in 39 games he's completed 706 of 1,096 passes (64.4%) for 9,104 yds w/ 78 TDs & 24 INTs, rushed 186x for 105 yds (0.6 ypc) w/ 12 TDs, caught 1 pass for 4 yds, and punted 12x for 425 yds (avg. 35.4 yds/punt) - note: I'm giving him the edge over Fromm based on his seniority

7. Auburn QB Jarrett Stidham, 6'3", 214 lbs., 4.57 40 [2015 4* prospect]: in 24 games he's completed 321 of 479 passes (67%) for 4,423 yds w/ 30 TDs & 8 INTs, and rushed 139x for 223 yds (1.6 ypc) & 6 TDs - transferred from Baylor

8. Georgia QB Jake Fromm, 6'2", 225 lbs, 4.96 40 [2017 4* prospect]: in 15 games he's completed 181 of 291 passes (62.2%) for 2,615 yds w/ 24 TDs & 7 INTs, and rushed 55x for 79 yds (1.4 ypc) & 3 TDs - note: strengths are putting UGA's offense in the right play pre-snap, competitiveness, and work ethic; would like to see more quickness and elusiveness from him when plays break down to make something out of nothing

9. Arizona QB Khalil Tate, 6'2", 215 lbs, 4.52 40 [2016 4* prospect]: in 18 games he's completed 129 of 224 passes (57.6%) for 1,834 yds w/ 17 TDs & 12 INTs, and rushed 202x for 1,648 yds (8.2 ypc) & 13 TDs - note: so-so stats throwing, but wow can he break a game open w/ his legs

10. Mississippi State QB Nick Fitzgerald, 6'5", 230 lbs, 4.59 40 [2014 3* QB]: in 32 games he's completed 366 of 661 passes (55.4%) for 4,440 yds w/ 39 TDs & 21 INTs, and rushed 380x for 2,486 yds (avg. 6.5 ypc) & 31 TDs - note: dislocated right ankle on 23 November 2017; not sure how that will affect his mobility going forward

11. Boise State QB Brett Rypien, 6'2", 208 lbs, 4.86 40 [2015 4* prospect]: in 37 games he's completed 734 of 1,170 passes (62.7%) for 9,873 yds w/ 60 TDs & 22 INTs; rushed 126x for -114 yds (-0.9 ypc) & 3 TDs - note: nephew of former NFL QB Mark Rypien

12. Michigan QB Shea Patterson, 6'2", 203 lbs, 4.58 40 [2016 5* prospect]: in 10 games he's completed 238 of 392 passes (60.7%) for 3,139 yds w/ 23 TDs & 12 INTs, rushed 88x for 153 yds (1.7 ypc) & 1 TD - note: tore PCL in right knee on 22 October 2017 that ended his season; not sure how that will affect his mobility going forward; will be interesting to see how he transitions from a pass-happy offense to a more grind-it-out offense w/ the Wolverines

13. Missouri QB Drew Lock, 6'4", 225 lbs, 4.89 40 [2015 4* prospect]: in 37 games he's completed 608 of 1,116 passes (54.5%) for 8,695 yds w/ 71 TDs & 31 INTs; rushed 147x for 262 yds (avg. 1.8 ypc) & 3 TDs - note: he's got size that NFL scouts love and can sling it, but I don't like his completion % or high # of interceptions; mediocre speed

14. Clemson QB Kelly Bryant, 6'3", 215 lbs, 4.64 40 [2015 3* prospect]: in 25 games he's completed 275 of 416 passes (66.1%) for 2,877 yds w/ 14 TDs & 9 INTs, rushed 227x for 843 yds (3.7 ypc) & 14 TDs, and punted 1x for 45 yds - note: good completion %, unimpressive TD-to-INT ratio, good speed

15. Michigan State QB Brian Lewerke, 6'3", 212 lbs., 4.86 40 [2015 3* prospect]: in 17 games he's completed 277 of 474 passes (58.4%) for 3,174 yds w/ 22 TDs & 8 INTs, rushed 145x for 708 yds (avg. 4.9 ypc) w/ 5 TDs, and caught 1 pass for 5 yds

16. South Carolina QB Jake Bentley, 6'3", 220 lbs, 4.81 40 [2016 4* prospect] - in 20 games he completed 370 of 584 passes (63.4%) w/ 27 TDs & 16 INTs and rushed 123x for 70 yds (0.6 ypc) & 6 TDs - note: skipped senior year of HS to early enroll at USC

17. Central Florida QB McKenzie Milton, 5'11", 177 lbs, 4.53 40 [2016 3* prospect]: in 23 games he's completed 459 of 731 passes (62.8%) for 6,020 yds w/ 47 TDs & 16 INTs, and rushed 206x for 771 yds (3.7 ypc) & 11 TDs - note: love his stats but he's way undersized and I don't think he'd do any better in the SEC than walk-on UGA QB Stetson Bennett

18. Northwestern QB Clayton Thorson, 6'4", 225 lbs, 4.76 40 [2014 4* prospect]: in 39 games he's completed 692 of 1,207 passes (57.3%) for 7,548 yds w/ 44 TDs & 30 INTs; rushed 284x for 518 yds (1.8 ypc) & 18 TDs
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000931256/article/drew-lock-will-grier-lead-top-qb-talents-in-cfb-pipeline-for-2018

Drew Lock, Will Grier lead top QB talents in CFB pipeline for 2018
By Lance Zierlein, NFL Media Draft Analyst
May 3, 2018
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Athlon Sports Steven Lassan ranks Jake Fromm as his #11 out of 130 FBS QBs in 2018 and #5 out 14 SEC QBs (would be #6 if Will Grier was still at Florida):

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-football-starting-quarterback-rankings-2018

Our rankings are compiled by using many factors including career stats, having a clear hold on the No. 1 position, pro potential, changes in scheme or coaching, projection for 2018, value to the team, recruiting background and just overall talent.
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Fromm/Fields #2

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/ranking-sec-quarterback-situations-entering-2018-college-football-season-171541150.html

Ranking the SEC quarterback situations entering the 2018 college football season
By Nick Bromberg
May 30, 2018
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https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/georgia-football/fromm-simple-question-answer-2018/

There's a simple, yet important question about Jake Fromm that we're going to get an answer to in 2018
By Connor O'Gara
15 June 2018
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000937744/article/scouting-drew-lock-missouri-qb-similar-to-patrick-mahomes

Scouting Drew Lock: Missouri QB similar to Patrick Mahomes
By Daniel Jeremiah
June 19, 2018

I can't wait to see him play: Georgia. The Tigers will host the Bulldogs on Sept. 22. This is a crucial game in the SEC East and the UGA defense will present a huge challenge for Lock. The Bulldogs have the talent in the secondary to make things very difficult for Mizzou's offense. If Lock can put up solid numbers and keep the game close in the fourth quarter, it will be a big boost to his draft stock.
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#7 - Jake Fromm, UGA

https://sportsnaut.com/2018/06/ranking-top-25-college-football-quarterbacks-2018/

Ranking Top 25 College Football Quarterbacks Entering the 2018 Season
By Matt Fitzgerald
24 June 2018
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USA Today ranks Jake Fromm as the 9th-best returning FBS quarterback:

https://triblive.com/sports/college/pennstate/13805507-74/mcsorley-tops-list-of-returning-ncaa-quarterbacks
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Jake Fromm #8 according to article's author:

https://coed.com/2018/06/28/best-college-football-quarterbacks-players-2018-season/

Top 10 Quarterbacks Heading Into The 2018 College Football Season
By Shane Holbein
28 June 2018
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7 ESPN "experts" w/ their best 2018 college football QB picks (5 picked Will Grier, 1 picked Justin Herbert, and 1 picked Trace McSorley):

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23944266/cfb-rountable-top-qb
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CBS Sports Dennis Dodd's alphabetical list of the top 10 QBs for the 2018 college football season:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/these-are-the-10-best-quarterbacks-entering-the-2018-college-football-season/
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Pro Football Focus grades for SEC QBs:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/college-pff-sec-preview-quarterback-spotlight
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Tua is doing a lot better than I thought, but Bama is letting him do it. I still feel like we are not letting Fromm or Fields truly be who they can be. I believe in time Fields will be the top QB in the nation, you can just see the skill set he has, very accurate/strong arm, ability to escape the rush and/or take off running. What he is missing is game experience and he is slowly gaining that. Fromm is an excellent QB in his own right but if I am being honest, you can see that Fields has the greatest overall potential of the two-just hard to replace a guy who is winning. I think if you see Fromm struggle in a game, it could be a Tua situation in Athens-I thought it was getting close at South Carolina honestly, but as the season plays out, I think it could happen at some point.
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